james madison, who is the -- james madison who with thomas jefferson was the author of the original virginia statute on religious freedom that became the first amendment was against even having chaplains in congress or the armed forces. >> that -- no, no, no. christopher, you know that was discovered in writings 100 years after he died. >> what difference does that make? what difference does that make? >> it's totally indidn't. inconsistent. if you let me finish, i'll answer your question. >> tony, to christopher's point -- let me ask you about christopher's point about the federal government involvement in this. a lot of people who don't want the federal government involved in many aspects of their lives seem to be arguing in favor of this notion the federal government having this national day of prayer. is there -- i mean, is there a certain hypocrisy there? >> what's next? no. i mean, no one is being compelled to pray. no one is being -- government's not demanding -- what happened yesterday was the government compelling you to pay taxes. calling the nation to set aside a day of prayer vol